Just posted this message to our "Double Bubble Recovery" Dual Recovery Anonymous Usergroup on MSN:
My Father "changed" when I was 8 years old, later I learned it was chronic depression, my Dad medicated himself every night with Alcohol and instantly changed personality, when sober he was stern and withdrawn, my Dad was a very honest person and I respect his memory, his Grandmother, my Great Grandmother was a flaming religious fanatic and probably bi polar (I remember her she died when I was 10..we were scared of her). No one to "blame", probably thousands have grown up in more dysfunctional situations. I came to realize my parents taught me basic moral values and tried to raise me as best they could. I wasted years "blaming others" for my failures and finally had to hit bottom, both in Alcohol and Chemical Dependency and Emotionally (was hospitalized 5 times due to my denial of being a "manic depressive"). Stick with the "winners" in the 12 Step Groups, those who cope, hope and have a psitive outlook on recovery and remember is but One Day at a Time. Medication, I believe is a personal issue between a person and their pdoc and one can always find another Doctor for a second opinion on medication issues if things don't be seem to be working out. AA and NA'ers have "been down" and can teach you how to "stay up" Sobriety works and chemical sobriety leads to emotional sobriety. I just went through a "downslide" and am grateful for all of you out there to listen to my ramblings, since you understand.
My Father "changed" when I was 8 years old, later I learned it was chronic depression, my Dad medicated himself every night with Alcohol and instantly changed personality, when sober he was stern and withdrawn, my Dad was a very honest person and I respect his memory, his Grandmother, my Great Grandmother was a flaming religious fanatic and probably bi polar (I remember her she died when I was 10..we were scared of her). No one to "blame", probably thousands have grown up in more dysfunctional situations. I came to realize my parents taught me basic moral values and tried to raise me as best they could. I wasted years "blaming others" for my failures and finally had to hit bottom, both in Alcohol and Chemical Dependency and Emotionally (was hospitalized 5 times due to my denial of being a "manic depressive"). Stick with the "winners" in the 12 Step Groups, those who cope, hope and have a psitive outlook on recovery and remember is but One Day at a Time. Medication, I believe is a personal issue between a person and their pdoc and one can always find another Doctor for a second opinion on medication issues if things don't be seem to be working out. AA and NA'ers have "been down" and can teach you how to "stay up" Sobriety works and chemical sobriety leads to emotional sobriety. I just went through a "downslide" and am grateful for all of you out there to listen to my ramblings, since you understand.
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Re: Back on "track" again....
Fri, April 15, 2005 - 3:54 PMdonald-if it weren't for you spotting me on the bipolar or FBW tribe i dont recall which i would'nt have have grown so much in the past two months. so no matter what you have gone thru it has helped me. you and have mentored me out to a few women who are also been beacon of light. thank you. what a selfish thing for me to say, but as an empath i'll bet you understand. that's what we do. suffer at times and in doing so others heal.
your abridged version is sad in the respect that bipolar was so underdiagnosed back in the 60's. wasn't that when lithium, ect, thorazine, haldol were often used as frontline mgmt, . some heavy tranqing. no wonder you didnt want to face the disease. thank god for the pharmacuetical break thrus and for a forum to discuss them in. even tho NA and AA takes an openminded approach, in fact their BB supports it, it is in dual recovery where we find the fellowship and understanding. glad you weren't out to long, hope your new cocktail works. might make a good topic. -
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Re: Back on "track" again....
Sun, April 17, 2005 - 10:34 AMHi, Pam and Donald! Happy Sunday to you both. Please accept my apologies for my recent hiatus. Been busier than the proverbial one-armed paper hanger lately. Posting to all my online haunts is "catch-as-catch can" any more.
You both spoke volumes in your posts. I can completely relate to the blame game-especially where sick ("dysfunctional" is just a sanitized descriptor, IMO) families are concerned. I am powerless over the abuses I suffered at the hands of my parents, and the resulting PTSD. Researchers have theorized in recent years that prolonged abuse starting in early childhood may actually be a contributing medical factor in bipolar disorder. And it sure doesn't take a degree in rocket surgery to connect the dots between childhood abuse and addiction, mental illnesses aside. And let us not forget about genetic predisposition to both substance abuse and mental illness... Any way one slices it, given these conditions individually can certainly present problems. Combine them with other variables and... YIKES!!!
You two got my grey matter sparking big time today, thanks!!! I only wish I had at least an hour or two to expand on some if what I just mentioned by providing some article links, etc. However, this mommy is getting increasingly distracted by my mischeivious little guys. Oops- flying Legos now- gotta run!
{{{hugs}}},
Chris a/k/a fugi
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